Does the Day Really Matter: An Evidence Based Analysis

There is no way that you can get through medical school without taking some sort of evidence based medicine course. In this course, you will learn how to critically analyze studies, find any biases in the study, and choose the right study to apply to your patient. As I have read different papers in the class, it has amazed just how many studies out there are complete hogwash. It has also amazed me how vastly different the conclusions can be on two studies talking about the same thing. Case in point, the New England Journal of Medicine published two studies in 1998, in the exact same issue with completely opposite conclusions. Below are the links, titles, and conclusions for the two studies:

Symptomatic Benefit from Eradicating Helicobacter pylori Infection in Patients with Nonulcer Dyspepsia (LINK)

Conclusion: In patients with H. pylori infection and nonulcer, or functional, dyspepsia, treatment with omeprazole and antibiotics to eradicate the infection is more likely to resolve symptoms than treatment with omeprazole alone.

Lack of Effect of Treating Helicobacter pylori Infection in Patients with Nonulcer Dyspepsia (LINK)

Conclusion: In patients with nonulcer dyspepsia, the eradication of H. pylori infection is not likely to relieve symptoms.

Isn’t that simply amazing? These two articles were published at the same time, in the same journal but have completely opposite conclusions. This might lead one to wonder how exactly you, as a physician, might sift through the errors in each study to find the real truth. Thankfully, medical school should help you do that.

But that is the real question for today’s post. Is there really truth out there? As Christians, and certainly as a Protestant Christian (i.e- not Catholic), we were taught that all truth arises from scripture. As a physician, when I am presented with supposed fact from a study, I am supposed to be diligent in my research to make sure that what I am reading is actual truth/fact. As Christians, when we are presented with supposed spiritual truth, it is our duty to weigh the evidence, and if you are a Protestant Christian, that evidence comes from sola scriptura, or scripture alone.

Lately there has been quite a lot of talk about the Sabbath, and whether Christians still need to keep the Sabbath. Now some of you reading this blog may say, “But wait DoctaJay! I do keep the Sabbath, and that day is Sunday.” If you have ever heard of Seventh-Day Adventist Christians, one thing you would have heard is that we keep the seventh-day Sabbath, Saturday. In previous posts, I have mentioned why I go to church on the Sabbath, quoting scripture behind my actions. Recently, acclaimed mega-church evangelist, T.D. Jakes, preached a sermon on the Sabbath. He set out to prove, biblically why Christians don’t need to keep it anymore. Since we are Christians, physicians, and physicians to be, trained in evidence based analysis, it behooves us to study all the evidence on both sides, to find real truth. This is not a trivial issue; I implore you to watch and listen to everything in this post, study personally, and then tell me, what the wealth of evidence has taught you. Below is T.D. Jake’s sermon in 3 parts:



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I can’t say that I exactly follow T.D. Jake’s logic, and I can’t really investigate much since I wasn’t provided any Bible texts, but I did some research and below are texts that are supposed to provide Biblical evidence of why Christians no longer need to keep the Sabbath. They were taken from this LINK:

Evidence of the Change of Days can be Seen in the NT

Within the New Testament is ample evidence that the seventh day Sabbath is no longer a requirement.

  • Rom. 14:5-6, “One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.”

The entire section of Rom. 14:1-12 is worth careful study. Nevertheless, the instructions here are that individuals must be convinced in their own minds about which day they observe for the Lord. If the seventh day Sabbath were a requirement, then the choice would not be mans’, but God’s.

  • Col. 2:16-17, “Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.”

Notice here that time sequence mentioned. A festival is yearly. A new moon is monthly. A Sabbath is weekly. No one is to judge in regard to this. The Sabbath is defined as a shadow, the reality is Jesus. Jesus is our Sabbath.

  • Acts 20:7, “And on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to depart the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight.”

The first day of the week is Sunday and this is the day the people gathered. This passage can easily be seen as the church meeting on Sunday. It has two important church functions within it: breaking bread (communion) and a message (preaching). Additionally, Luke did not use the Jewish system of counting days: sundown to sundown. He used the Roman system: midnight to midnight. This is a subtle point that shows the Jewish Sabbath system was not the one utilized by Luke.

  • 1 Cor. 16:1-2, “Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I directed the churches of Galatia, so do you also. 2 On the first day of every week let each one of you put aside and save, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come.

Notice here that Paul is directing the churches to meet on the first day of each week and put money aside. It would seem that this is tithing. So, the instructed time for the church to meet is Sunday. Is this an official worship day set up by the church? You decide.

  • Rev. 1:10-11, “I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet, 11saying, “Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea.”

The New Bible Dictionary says regarding the term, ‘The Lord’s Day’ in Revelation 1:10: “This is the first extant occurrence in Christian literature of heµ kyriakeµ heµmera. The adjectival construction suggests that it was a formal designation of the church’s worship day. As such it certainly appears early in the 2nd century (Ignatius, Epistle to the Magnesians, 1. 67).
In many churches today, the term “The Lord’s Day” is used to designate Sunday, the same as it was in the second century.

I hope this is evidence enough to show you that the Bible does not require that we worship on Saturday. If anything, we have the freedom (Rom. 14:1-12) to worship on the day that we believe we should. And, we no one should judge us in regard to the day we keep. We are free in Christ, not under law (Rom. 6:14).

Below is the Catholic church’s explanation on why Christians no longer need to keep the seventh-day Sabbath.

Q. Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept? (LINK, pg. 174)
A. Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her;she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance
of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.

Q. What is the Third Commandment? (LINK)

A. The Third Commandment is: Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.

Q. Which is the Sabbath day?

A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.

Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?

A. We observe Sunday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.

Q. Why did the Catholic Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?

A. The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday, because Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday, and the Holy Ghost descended upon the Apostles on a Sunday.

Q. By what authority did the Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?

A. The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday by the plenitude of that divine power which Jesus Christ bestowed upon her.

The day of the Resurrection: the new creation (LINK)

2174 Jesus rose from the dead “on the first day of the week.”104 Because it is the “first day,” the day of Christ’s Resurrection recalls the first creation. Because it is the “eighth day” following the sabbath,105 it symbolizes the new creation ushered in by Christ’s Resurrection. For Christians it has become the first of all days, the first of all feasts, the Lord’s Day (he kuriake hemera, dies dominica) Sunday:

We all gather on the day of the sun, for it is the first day [after the Jewish sabbath, but also the first day] when God, separating matter from darkness, made the world; and on this same day Jesus Christ our Savior rose from the dead.106

Sunday – fulfillment of the sabbath

2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ’s Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man’s eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:107

Those who lived according to the old order of things have come to a new hope, no longer keeping the sabbath, but the Lord’s Day, in which our life is blessed by him and by his death.108

2176 The celebration of Sunday observes the moral commandment inscribed by nature in the human heart to render to God an outward, visible, public, and regular worship “as a sign of his universal beneficence to all.”109 Sunday worship fulfills the moral command of the Old Covenant, taking up its rhythm and spirit in the weekly celebration of the Creator and Redeemer of his people.

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If you have read everything above that line, then you have heard and read the principle Biblical arguments on why we as Christians no longer need to keep the Sabbath. Once again, as physician scientists, we are behooved to do our research before we make any decisions. Some of you may ask why I am making all of this fuss. I’m making a point of this because if there is truth out there that I don’t know, I want to know it. That thirst is in almost everyone, especially scientists, medical students, and physicians. Above, you have heard and read supposed truth, and below you will read real truth. What you do with that information is between you and God. Galatians 4:16 asks, “Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?” I pray that you don’t focus on the messenger, but the truth found in the Bible, because that is what matters. If I am wrong, please show me in the Bible! I want to do what God told me to do, and if I have missed something, please reveal it to me, but make sure its is from the Bible, because that is MY source of truth. So without further wait, I present to you a 10-Part sermon series on the Sabbath, particularly in response to T.D. Jake’s sermon. The sermons are not long, and I pray that you really study your word to prove whether he is rightly handling the word of God. The sermons are from the Community Praise Center, lead by Pastor Henry Wright (its best if you listen to them in order):

Henry Wright – The Stewardship of Rest– 12/29/2007

Henry Wright – Keep the Sabbath Holy– 1/05/2008
Accompanying Powerpoint Presentation

Henry Wright – The Sabbath in the New Testament- 1/12/2008
Accompanying Powerpoint Presentation

Melvyn Hayden III – The Preparation Day – 1/19/2008

Henry Wright – The Sabbath in the New Testament – 1/26/2008

Willie Boyd – Sabbath – Test of Loyalty – 2/9/2008

Henry Wright – The Sabbath & The Law – 2/23/2008

Henry Wright – The Change of the Sabbath – 3/01/2008
Accompanying Powerpoint Presentation

Henry Wright – What Was Nailed to the Cross? – 3/15/2008

Henry Wright – Refusing to Enter His Rest – 3/29/2008

Do I like Sunday keepers? LOL, of course! Some of the nicest people I have met are Sunday keepers. Some of the most sincere people I have met are Sunday keepers, but truth is truth. This topic is so important because the only commandment that God told us to remember, most of us have forgotten. Before I start my medical residency, I am pretty sure that there will be a law pass in the United States requiring all people to worship on Sunday. Some may say, Great…but if you have seen what the Bible says, this poses a dilemma for many who want to follow what God said. So my question is this, Does the Day Really Matter? I know that some of you without fully reading everything in this post will jump to different opinions on the matter, but this is not subjective. Each of us must ask ourselves, “What does God say about this matter?” His word is the final say. But honestly, I’m not televangelist; I’m not a preacher, nor the son of a preacher. I’m a fellow student of the Word of God, like yourself. Let us all study to show ourselves approved, rightly handling the Word of God. (2 Timothy 2:15).

7 Responses to Does the Day Really Matter: An Evidence Based Analysis

  1. jeff says:

    hi there.

    it is important to remember this:

    “And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:” – Mark 2:27, KJV

    you have written a good post that contains lots of resources and links. well done. i have not read all of them yet, but i just thought this important principle must be kept in mind before delving into this “argument”.

    God bless.

  2. Dennis Fischer says:

    When Jesus died, the Sabbath died. The Christian calendar doesn’t have any holy days. Although Sunday (the Lord’s day or Resurrection Day) is very special day to Christ-followers, it is not a holy day in the sense of being holy time. The weekly, festal Sabbath was a shadow pointing to Jesus Christ with its shewbread and double sacrificing requirements.

    The weekly Sabbath is also listed as one of the seven convocations given to “the sons of Israel” (Lev. 23:1-3). It is clearly a ritual or ceremonial law–a shadow of the Cross. Those who insist upon observing observing any shadow of the Cross are actually denying the reality of Christ.

    Dennis Fischer
    E-mail: dennisfischer@neb.rr.com

  3. DoctaJay says:

    Hey Dennis. I really appreciate your response. I have heard very few people admit that Sunday is not a holy day, so I appreciate your comment. But I looked at the text you provided, and I think something was missed here.

    You are 100% right that the sacrifices that occured in the temple (with the holy place and the most holy place) with all of that blood has been done away with. But I think that you have mixed up which law was done away with…The Law of Moses or the Divine Law (10 commandments). If we read Paul’s writing alone we will see that either he loves to contradict himself, or that there really are 2 laws. For example in Gal. 3:10-13 he writes: "….No one is justified by the law….The law is not faith….Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law". And then in Rom 3:31; 7:12 he wrote, "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary we establish the law…Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and good".

    I did a little more searching and I found a good summary that should clear up the differences between the 2 laws, of which one was done away with:

    The Ten Commandment
    Law of God
    The Law of Moses
    Called "The law of the Lord"
    Isaiah 5:24
    Called "the law of Moses"
    Luke 2:22
    1 Corinthians 9:9
    Written by God on Stone
    Exodus 31:18; 32:16
    Written by Moses in a Book
    Deuteronomy 31:9, Deuteronomy 31:24, 2 Chronicles 35:12
    Placed inside the Ark
    Exodus 40:20
    Placed by the side of the Ark
    Deuteronomy 31:26
    God’s law points out sin
    Romans 7:7, 3:20
    Moses’ law added bcause of sin
    Galatians 3:19
    God’s law is not grevious
    1 John 5:3
    Moses’ law was contrary to us
    Colossians 2:14
    God’s law is called "The Royal Law"
    James 2:8
    Moses’ law was called "Law contained in the ordinances"
    Ephesians 2:15
    God’s law judges all men
    James 2:10-12
    Moses’ law judges no man
    Colossians 2:14-16
    God’s law is Spiritual
    Romans 7:14
    Moses’ law was Carnal
    Hebrews 7:11-18
    God’s law brings blessings and peace
    Proverbs 29:18, Psalms 119:165
    Moses’ law contained curses
    Deuteronomy 29:20-21, Galatians 3:10
    God’s law is PERFECT
    Psalms 19:7
    Moses’ law made nothing perfect
    Hebrews 7:19
    God’s law is ETERNAL
    Matthew 5:17-19
    Moses’ law was temporary
    Colossians 2:14, Hebrews 8:13

    I would hate to not be honoring Christ’s death and resurrection, but from reading these texts, I get the feeling that Sabbath in the 10 commandments did not die with Jesus. In fact, when we are in heaven, the Bible says that we will still be keeping the Sabbath (Isaiah 66:22, 23). In Leviticus 23, Moses reminds the Israelites that the seventh-day is the Sabbath day (before he goes on to list out other numerious festivals and sabbaths). In fact in Leviticus, I read that there are a couple of sabbaths that the Israelites had to follow in addition to the seventh day Sabbath. There was the sabbath that came from the evening of the ninth day of the month until the following evening (Lev. 23:32). There was also the sabbath rest that came every 6 years for the land (Lev. 25: 1-5).

    I really enjoy looking through the Word to see what the Lord is trying to tell me. If I am missing something, I would really like to know, because I jus want to do what the Bible tells me.

  4. DoctaJay says:

    Jeff, i really appreciate your reminder. the more that we think about how the sabbath was made for us, the more I think we can enjoy it, and not view it as some burden placed upon us.

  5. Dennis Fischer says:

    DoctaJay,

    Clearly, with the weekly Sabbath listed as one of the festal shadows in Leviticus 23:1-3 that I referred to in my last post, it is strictly associated with the list of festal convocations given exclusively “to the sons of Israel.” The Sabbath was never given to any other people than the Israelites (see Deut. 5:3) In fact, the Sabbath was a special covenant between God and Israel.

    Furthermore, the weekly Sabbath was to be a remembrance of their miraculous deliverance from slavery in Egypt (Deut. 5:15). Indeed, I have never been a slave in Egypt (smile). The apostle John declared that Jesus broke the Sabbath (John 5:18). Additionally, Jesus said, when accused of Sabbath breaking, that both He and the Father were working (John 5:17). Jesus certainly would never have broken a moral law. A MORAL law is one that is in effect 24/7 (every nanosecond of time) and not merely once a year, season, month, or week. A moral law is NEVER abrogated, altered, or changed due to acts of charity, mercy, or necessity. The Ten Commandments, as a unit, were the very words of the Old Covenant (Ex. 34:28).

    The Jewish Sabbath was a mere microcosm (shadow) of the perpetual Sabbath forfeited in Eden, and it pointed to Jesus, the true Sabbath Rest (Col. 2:16,17; Heb. 4:1-10). With its double sacrificing and shewbread requirements, the weekly Sabbath effectively pointed to Jesus as the Bread of Life and the Lamb of God. It is noteworthy that Moses meticulously indicated that “there was morning and there was evening” for the six days of creation, but there was no “evening and morning” with the seventh day. It was a perpetual, unending Sabbath that was broken by sin in the Fall.

    Christians obey the Sabbath commandment by entering into God’s rest, resting as He had rested from all His works after the creation, on the seventh day. Notice that God never instructed Adam to Eve to worship every seventh day nor does any passage indicate that God himself rested every seventh day thereafter. God rested because He was finished with His work–not because He was tired and needed physical rest. It is significant what the Bible does say as well as what it doesn’t say. Adam and Eve certainly were not worn out every week and desperately needed a day off before the Fall. In Christ, every day is a Sabbath (Heb. 4) — the believer’s true rest.

    As a former Seventh-day Adventist minister, my wife and I collectively have over 100 years of experience in desperately trying to observe the Jewish Sabbath. Like with circumcision, the Sabbath was to be perpetual sign “FOREVER” throughout the generations of the Israelites. The Sabbath was a special sign of the Old or Mosaic Covenant. In the Hebrew text, the Sabbath commandment is precisely in the very center of the Decalogue. Since there are moral, ritual, civil, health, and judicial laws all mixed together in the 613 laws of the Torah, it should not surprise us to find a ceremonial law in the basic summary of the Law–the Decalogue. The Jews were smart enough to know that not all of these 613 laws carried the same weight, purpose, and importance.

    The Jews rightly never considered the Sabbath commandment as a moral law. It was trumped by ritual law repeatedly with circumcision and priestly sacrifices. Moral laws are NEVER trumped by ritual laws–not even for a second. Importantly, it is impossible to observe the weekly Sabbath without the Levitical sytem being fully in place. We are not authorized to make any type of “principles” out of ritual or ceremonial laws. When Jesus died, the Jewish Sabbath died. At the Cross, all the shadows of the Torah were fulfilled in the reality of Christ. The Sabbath really never was about a day and it not now. It was a miniature picture or visual aid pointing to our rest in Jesus (Matt. 11:29,30).

    Resting in Him,

    Dennis Fischer

  6. Dennis Fischer says:

    Doctajay,

    Just a brief comment about your citing Isaiah 66:23 in attempting to prove that the weekly Sabbath will even be observed in heaven. Are you saying that the monthly “new moon” celebrations will likewise be celebrated in heaven to point to the Messiah–with all its bloody butcherings? Is heaven really a place of unending death? Since the apostle John tells us that there will be no night nor temple in heaven (Rev. 21:22,23), the Jewish Sabbath cannot be observed there. Without the Levitical system being fully in place, the festal, weekly Sabbath cannot be observed. Likewise, with the ritual OT tithing codes, it requires the Levitical system to be fully in place.

    The prophet Isaiah is metaphorically speaking to his immediate audience in a way that they could best comprehend the concept of periodic formal worship throughout ceaseless ages of eternity. Clearly, without night and day (sunset to sunset), one cannot observe the Jewish Sabbath.

    Dennis Fischer

  7. DoctaJay says:

    Hey Dennis. I am sorry that you felt you needed to leave the church, and it is wonderful that you have had over 100 years of Sabbath keeping experience, but that does not change what the Bible says. And I think if we delve into any of the texts you have listed, we will see that. Before I get into that though, I want to make it clear that I did not make this post to “attack” people. I appreciate this dialogue, especially when we use the Word as it is written to back ourselves up. First off, remember that the Sabbath day is not about legalistic keeping. Jesus told us, that if we love Him, we should keep His commandments (John 14:15). You will not be saved simply because you keep the commandments, but if you willingly break the commandments, will you be saved?

    I will say that Protestants who don’t keep the Sabbath holy don’t just have a problem with what the Bible says, but also with what history says. About 1200 years before a Protestant even existed, the Catholic church claimed proudly, that due to the power given to them by Christ, they changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. But don’t listen to me, read what they themselves said:

    (source, p. 174): Q. Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
    A. Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her;she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.

    (source): Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
    A.
    We observe Sunday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
    Q. Why did the Catholic Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?
    A.
    The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday, because Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday, and the Holy Ghost descended upon the Apostles on a Sunday.

    Even the Catholic priests and THE LEADERS of the early Protestant churches saw that there was no scriptural reason to not observe the Sabbath:

    “The Seventh day of the week has been deposed from its title to obligatory religious observance, and its prerogative has been carried over to the first [day] under no direct precept of Scripture.”
    (William E. Gladstone, Prime minister of England, 1898)

    “It is certain that our Lord when on earth did observe Saturday, and did not observe Sunday. If they are consistent, as I have said, they must keep Saturday, not Sunday as the day of rest.”
    (Canon Knox Little, 1894, Church of England)

    “The Christian Sabbath [Sunday] is not in the Scripture, and was not by the primitive church called the Sabbath”
    (Timothy Dwight, 1818, Congregationalist)

    “It is quite clear that, however rigidly or devotedly we may spend Sunday, we are not keeping the Sabbath…The Sabbath was founded on a specific, Divine command. We can plead no such command for the obligation to observe Sunday.” (The Ten Commandments, pp 127­129, Dr. R. Dale, British Congregationalist)

    “You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will find not a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday.”
    (Cardinal Gibbons, Faith of our Fathers, pp.72,73, 1917 ed.)

    “There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not Sunday. It will, however, be readily said, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the Seventh to the First day of the week… Where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament, absolutely not.”
    (August 20, 1893, at a Baptist’s minister’s conference in Saratoga New York)

    “Up to the time of Christ’s death, no change had been made in the day…So far as the record shows, they [the Apostles] did not give any explicit command enjoining the abandonment of the seventh­day Sabbath, and its observance on the first day of the week.”
    (A. E. Waffle, the Lord’s Day, pp. 186­188)

    So you see, a problem is presented; now almost 500 years after the Protestants appeared and almost 2000 years after the Catholic church emerged, we are still trying to FIND a scriptural reason that we should not keep the Sabbath day. But Jesus kept it (Luke 4:16), the apostles after Christ’s death and resurrection kept it (Acts 13:14,42,44; Acts 16:13; Acts:17:2; Acts 18:1,2,4) and we will keep it in heaven (Isaiah 66:22, 23, which I will expound on).

    In response to your comments (I’ve bolded my responses):

    Clearly, with the weekly Sabbath listed as one of the festal shadows in Leviticus 23:1-3 that I referred to in my last post, it is strictly associated with the list of festal convocations given exclusively “to the sons of Israel.” The Sabbath was never given to any other people than the Israelites (see Deut. 5:3) In fact, the Sabbath was a special covenant between God and Israel. [You are correct in saying that the seventh-day Sabbath was written in the Law of Moses, but it was also written in the Ten Commandments, not by Moses, but by God Himself, with his own finger (Ex. 31:18). Even after Moses broke the tablets of the Ten Commandments when he saw the Israelites sinning, God did not let Moses rewrite the Ten Commandments. He wrote it again, Himself (Ex. 34:1). ]

    Furthermore, the weekly Sabbath was to be a remembrance of their miraculous deliverance from slavery in Egypt (Deut. 5:15). Indeed, I have never been a slave in Egypt (smile).[The Bible does not support this. Before a Jew ever existed, the Sabbath existed. Adam and Eve were not Jews, yet the Bible says that God created the Sabbath at that time (Gen. 2:1). And in Deut. 5:15, no where does it mention that the Sabbath is a sign of their exodus from Egypt. The 4th commandment is a sign of God’s authority and creation (this is the only commandment where the author of the 10 commandments is noted). In Deut. 5:15, God is reminding the Israelites of who exactly brought them out of Egypt. He reminds them that it was only by His power and authority that they are not slaves.] The apostle John declared that Jesus broke the Sabbath (John 5:18). Additionally, Jesus said, when accused of Sabbath breaking, that both He and the Father were working (John 5:17). [If you read this text, John is recounting how the Pharisees charged Jesus with breaking the Sabbath. The Pharisees required a level of Sabbath keeping that was beyond and opposite to what God had intended. This is why if you read the New Testament, you see countless times where Jesus corrects their false teachings. The Pharisees even thought it was a sin to do good for others on the Sabbath. Christ corrected this also (Matt. 12:12). So if you read John 5:1-20, you will see that Jesus was healing on the Sabbath, and the Pharisees charged Him with breaking the Sabbath. Jesus was saying that if healing others on the Sabbath is a sin (by their book), then not only is He breaking the Sabbath, but also His father, who is in heaven, healing everyday.] Jesus certainly would never have broken a moral law. A MORAL law is one that is in effect 24/7 (every nanosecond of time) and not merely once a year, season, month, or week. A moral law is NEVER abrogated, altered, or changed due to acts of charity, mercy, or necessity. [You are quite right. A moral law never goes away. God, not Moses, put the Sabbath into the Moral Law. Therefore it never goes away. In fact, God stressed the importance of the Sabbath by mentioning it in the Mosaic Law also. There is no way you can rip the Sabbath out of the 10 commandments and still follow all the others. If Sabbath is gone, then I can also cheat on my wife, kill some annoying classmates, and worship any tree I choose. James 2:8-10 makes it clear that you can’t be picky about the commandments that you keep. The same God who said “Do not committ adultry”, also said, “Remember the Sabbath day to Keep it Holy”.] The Ten Commandments, as a unit, were the very words of the Old Covenant (Ex. 34:28). [The chart I posted in my previous comment comparing the Mosaic Law and the Moral law already clears this up]

    The Jewish Sabbath was a mere microcosm (shadow) of the perpetual Sabbath forfeited in Eden, and it pointed to Jesus, the true Sabbath Rest (Col. 2:16,17; Heb. 4:1-10). With its double sacrificing and shewbread requirements, the weekly Sabbath effectively pointed to Jesus as the Bread of Life and the Lamb of God. It is noteworthy that Moses meticulously indicated that “there was morning and there was evening” for the six days of creation, but there was no “evening and morning” with the seventh day. It was a perpetual, unending Sabbath that was broken by sin in the Fall. [I think it was pretty clear that all because God did not say, “the evening and the morning”, it does not mean that it wasn’t also a day. Scripture does not support the perpetual day. Exodus 20:8-11 says, “Remember the Sabbath DAY”, not period of time, not eon, not decade, not year. Although the Jews had forgotten about the Sabbath after all the years of Egyptian slavery, God did not, and before they even heard the Ten Commandments at Mt. Sinai, God expected them to remember the Sabbath DAY (Ex. 16), not period of time, not year. ]

    Christians obey the Sabbath commandment by entering into God’s rest, resting as He had rested from all His works after the creation, on the seventh day. Notice that God never instructed Adam to Eve to worship every seventh day nor does any passage indicate that God himself rested every seventh day thereafter. God rested because He was finished with His work–not because He was tired and needed physical rest. It is significant what the Bible does say as well as what it doesn’t say. [God also did not tell them to put no other God before them, but when they chose to believe Satan over God by eating the forbidden fruit, they had obviously done something wrong. The Bible also never told us to not snort cocaine, so it must be okay then right? There is no mention of the Adam and Eve keeping the Sabbath because there was no problem with them keeping the Sabbath. Everything was perfect, just as God had set in place. There is alot of stuff that Genesis 2 doesn’t mention…all we can go off of is what it DOES mention] Adam and Eve certainly were not worn out every week and desperately needed a day off before the Fall. [The sabbath was created as a memorial to creation (Ex. 20:8-11), not so that Adam and Eve could final get some sleep..] In Christ, every day is a Sabbath (Heb. 4) — the believer’s true rest. [Hebrews 4 does not say that everyday is the Sabbath day. In fact it, the writer of Hebrew reminds us that there is still a Sabbath rest for the people of God (Heb. 4:9-11), and the chapter even identifies that Sabbath rest as the seventh day.]

    As a former Seventh-day Adventist minister, my wife and I collectively have over 100 years of experience in desperately trying to observe the Jewish Sabbath. Like with circumcision, the Sabbath was to be perpetual sign “FOREVER” throughout the generations of the Israelites. The Sabbath was a special sign of the Old or Mosaic Covenant. In the Hebrew text, the Sabbath commandment is precisely in the very center of the Decalogue. Since there are moral, ritual, civil, health, and judicial laws all mixed together in the 613 laws of the Torah, it should not surprise us to find a ceremonial law in the basic summary of the Law–the Decalogue. The Jews were smart enough to know that not all of these 613 laws carried the same weight, purpose, and importance. [Once again, God made the distinction between the ceremonial laws and the moral law. He instructed Moses to put the Decalogue INSIDE the ark (Exodus 40:20), and he instructed Moses to put the Law of Moses, with all of its ceremonial laws, BESIDE the ark. (Deut. 31:26). The 4 commandment was not stuck in there arbitrarily by God Himself…He put it there for a reason. The Sabbath is no more important than the rest of the 10 commandments, but the 10 commandments are certainly more important than the Law of Moses which was done away with when Christ died.

    You continue to mention that if we kept the Sabbath we would still have to perform animal sacrifices, but like you said, Christ WAS that sacrifice. The Jews sacrificed probably thousands of animals to provide atonement for their sins. Obviously, the blood of an animal was not sufficient. These things pointed towards the true sacrifice, Christ Jesus. When He died on the cross, the temple services involving sacrifices was done away with, which was signified by the curtain ripping down the middle (Matt. 27:50, 51). The Bible makes no mention of the Sabbath DAY being done away with when Christ died. In fact, Jesus fully expected his apostles to be keeping the Sabbath, decades after He died (Matt. 24:20). Praise the Lord that I don’t have to bring a lamb anymore when I go to church! Christ became that lamb, dying for me, even while I was still in my sin (Rom 5:8).]

    The Jews rightly never considered the Sabbath commandment as a moral law. It was trumped by ritual law repeatedly with circumcision and priestly sacrifices. Moral laws are NEVER trumped by ritual laws–not even for a second. Importantly, it is impossible to observe the weekly Sabbath without the Levitical sytem being fully in place. We are not authorized to make any type of “principles” out of ritual or ceremonial laws. When Jesus died, the Jewish Sabbath died. At the Cross, all the shadows of the Torah were fulfilled in the reality of Christ. The Sabbath really never was about a day and it not now. It was a miniature picture or visual aid pointing to our rest in Jesus (Matt. 11:29,30). [The Jews put many of their traditions above what God told them to do. Christ made it a point of setting them straight when He was on earth. Regardless of what the Jews did in practice, we must look at what God instructed, and what He still instructs of us today. There was never a Jewish Sabbath, because God made the sabbath before a jew even existed (Gen. 2:1). Once again, my chart in my previous comment makes it clear that there is a distinction between the Law of God and the Law of Moses (which was done away with at the cross)]

    Resting in Him,

    Dennis Fischer

    Doctajay,

    Just a brief comment about your citing Isaiah 66:23 in attempting to prove that the weekly Sabbath will even be observed in heaven. Are you saying that the monthly “new moon” celebrations will likewise be celebrated in heaven to point to the Messiah–with all its bloody butcherings? Is heaven really a place of unending death? Since the apostle John tells us that there will be no night nor temple in heaven (Rev. 21:22,23), the Jewish Sabbath cannot be observed there. Without the Levitical system being fully in place, the festal, weekly Sabbath cannot be observed. Likewise, with the ritual OT tithing codes, it requires the Levitical system to be fully in place.

    The prophet Isaiah is metaphorically speaking to his immediate audience in a way that they could best comprehend the concept of periodic formal worship throughout ceaseless ages of eternity. Clearly, without night and day (sunset to sunset), one cannot observe the Jewish Sabbath. [Dennis, like I mentioned above, when Christ died, the animal sacrifices and ceremonies died also (as signified by the curtain ripping in Matt. 27:50,51). The Bible does not support that 1/10 commandments in the Decalogue was done away with also. In Isiah 66:23, I absolutely believe what the Bible says. I know that we won’t be sacrificing animals or anything living because Christ already paid that price. As as to what we will be doing at each New Moon…I don’t know, but I do know that the Bible says it, therefore I believe it. You are right that Rev. 21:22, 23 says that there is no temple in heaven, but you missed an important point. It says there is no temple because CHRIST HIMSELF IS THE TEMPLE! No longer will we need a building to worship Christ; no longer will we need sacrifices; instead, God himself will be seated on His throne of glory, there for us to worship Him. That truly is a wonderful revelation. I don’t know exactly how the Sabbath will work in heaven nor how the New Moon celebration will work in heaven (as the Bible doesn’t talk about this), but what the Bible does mention is that it WILL be there, regardless of the lack of sense it may make to you or me. Heck, it doesn’t make sense how in the world God had no beginning; it doesn’t make sense to me how I will live forever; it doesn’t make sense how I will be able to fly; it doesn’t make sense why we can’t see angels or God. There is alot of stuff that doesn’t make sense right now; all we can do is go off of what He has told us and live in faith with the promises He has given us.]

    I truly hope that none of my words seemed harsh because that was not my intent. I say this in love…I honestly do. If after all of this evidence you (or anyone else) is not convinced then we will have to agree to disagree :). I certainly am not one to judge anyone. I appreciated the dialogue, and I ask that you forgive me if I don’t write too much more for awhile because I have crazy finals coming up soon that I must study for diligently. Take care and God bless!

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